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H*****, calling yourself Charley Manson is the saddest and most pathetic thing I have ever witnessed. You have somehow managed to lose all of your friends. It's no wonder, the way you distort truth and turn everything into some sick twisted fantasy where you model yourself after one of the sickest criminal minds of the 20th century.

I have read your pirated website and have kept track of your fall from a fairly normal motorcycle enthusiast, to the pathetic shell of a human being that resorts to lying about other people in hopes of making yourself look more important. You only succeeded in making yourself look pathetic.

You lied and twisted the truth to suit your demented spoiled brain when you began screwing over the B** Club and now, on the website you stole from your friend B*b. The cartoon page you posted about them is such old news, you would have to be a mindless child to think it is of interest to anyone!

I had my doubts until I went to the B** Club's All Brit recently. They had an excellent turn out, maybe more than the Norton Club ever has. The trophies at their show were outstanding and they really had their act together. Everyone enjoyed it. The owner of Ace Cafe was there, Jay Leno and even the police officers had fun looking at the bikes and drinking a soda.

I picked up their newsletter and found it to be outstanding as well. It had great human interest articles, technical articles and a wonderful layout for the For Sale ads. I found more than 17 businesses advertising on a special business index, with most offering discounts to their members. I spoke with the Editor and found him to be very sincere and knowledgeable.

I also spoke with their webmaster. I have to say, his website is so far superior to the website when you had it, I was astonished. They should be grateful for having to take it away from you. It is much nicer now and doesn't constantly run people down. I picked up five back issues of their newsletter and found that it was positive and upbeat, not at all like the piece of trash it used to be when that nasty J** guy was the Editor.

The B** Club members I met their were so nice and friendly, they were hardly like you have described on the stolen website you host There had to be 25 of them working at the event and another 40 or more proudly wearing their club logo t-shirts and some of them were wearing Piled Arms t-shirts. I'm told the Piled Arms t-shirts were special awards that they were extremely proud of!.

They have great meeting locations like the meeting at Tom's Farm this coming weekend, along with an interesting ride schedule. I was surprised to see Buchanan's Wheel and Spokes hosting a ride. After I met many of this fantastic groups members, I can see why Kenny was eager to be involved with them

I'm saddened to see that you have chosen to lie about this fine group and found nothing in your website to be close to true.

I suppose that is why you chose to nickname yourself after an inept murderer and call your website "underground". That is were it belongs, underground, it stinks so much it ought to be buried deep underground and you should be right next to the real Charlie Manson, in a mental hospital and prison. I'm glad you haven't been to any of the rides lately, you are far better off hiding, please continue to keep your poisen to yourself, you are the only one that believes the lies you tell.

I am now a proud member of the Southern California B** Club, I look forward to receiving their newsletter and can't wait until their next event.

Hey Vinny, thanks for the kind words and your report on the All-Brit ride, even if you can't spell "poison". I am glad that you enjoyed the Cartoon Page, we have a lot of fun with it. Its good to know that the Underground Voice of the So Cal BritBike community is being read. But then again, we could deduce that from the almost eleven thousand hits on this web site, and they keep coming. We are so proud!

Vinny, mad mike, editor of a corporate newsletter with no content, or whatever your next screen name will be.
What does your personal attack on the webmaster and his family have to do with British motorcycling, or the fact that your inept group of corporate officers from a club turned into a corporation, published the incorrect date for the singles ride? Stop your rants, get a life and a psychiatric evaluation before you hurt yourself or someone else.

A note to tell you how much I enjoyed riding my BSA on the Free Charlie ride on April 1st. I especially liked the open house by the present owners of the infamous Tate / La Bianca estate. It was wonderful that the gathering was snubbed by Establishment types such as the no news newsletter editor of a local corporation, now known as the "corpse" of what a club once was. This portly fellow with puffy rosie red cheeks who sometimes identifies
himself with the alias of "mad mike", is reminiscent of the Tricky Dick Nixon poster I once saw where Nixon's cheeks were scrotom sacks with the short drooping nose being the penis.
C. Manson, M.P. Inc.